1. Liam Maxwell
    January 19, 2014 @ 8:09 pm

    As much as I personally know how much it costs to run a fully functional band, and as much as I know how draining on your personal and professional (if you don’t consider yourself a professional musician) life it can be, I think articles like this can to an extent make out the music business to be a charity case. I think if the band has enough potential, and enough determination, they will succeed in what they do (depending on what one might regard as success…) eventually, but for bands I’ve seen running for years and years and still plowing money into what might even be considered a hole, it’s just good fun for them really, and that’s the mindset they should maybe stick to. Also, just opinion here, but in no other industry do you get a sense of expectation attached to an artist performing at a venue – support your local bands and help them blossom if you enjoy what they do, but by no means feel a need to support someone just because they ARE a local band.


  2. Andy Wyldstone
    January 19, 2014 @ 8:34 pm

    A fantastic article Bethan. Very well researched and thorough. Hopefully an eye opener for an industry and fan base that far too often expects endless freebies from artists who devote their life to their work, and have no idea of the impact.


  3. Mj Dixon
    January 19, 2014 @ 9:40 pm

    Great article, Its good to know that some people see how much actually goes into it. It can be a thankless job and if you don’t love it to begin with theres every chance the sacrifice it takes is not for you.

    I worked tirelessly for 3 and half years in a band called Subject Seven moving us slowly up the ladder and sacrificing almost everything I had in money, time and patience before some the band was pushed to breaking point and eventually broke.

    After all this that you’ve listed above you can also lose EVERYTHING just like that. Its really a tough industry to try and make your way in. I spend a lot of my time staying off the road now and working in my home studio just trying to keep expenses down so that it all doesn’t happen again.

    Once again thanks for a great article.

    HockeyMask Heroes


    • Bethan Hughes
      January 20, 2014 @ 1:04 am

      You are very welcome. I got sick of bands getting nothing back, being moaned at for a £4 gig ticket, £5 for an EP etc so why I wrote this. Just goes to show that bands need more support. Keep at it MJ, the home studio is a great idea. Hope it works better for you.


  4. James
    January 19, 2014 @ 11:12 pm

    Very accurate and interesting read. I would say this is more the bottom end of spending that bands have to pay per year. It’s always good for bands to learn how to do some of the things mentioned themselves to save costs. A very useful guide for bands starting out or looking at progressing. I wouldn’t suggest recording in the USA if you are based in the UK without financial or label support. Great article!


  5. steve saunders
    January 19, 2014 @ 11:43 pm

    Well written Bethan. If only Landlords and Venues would realise and not take the piss.my question has been the same for many years in the UK..why do you think bands do not deserve to get paid, and yet you will pay the guy with the beer,the decorator or any other person you agree too hire or contract?. And all these venues rely on live music as part of the attraction..makes my blood boil.always has.


  6. Trevor Locke
    January 20, 2014 @ 9:46 am

    Good article. This is one of the issues facing the Leicester Music industry. The other side of the equation is The Price of Running a live music venue. Making these two sets of equations work with each other is what we in Leicester are trying to get our heads round.


    • AndysRecords Aberystwyth
      January 21, 2014 @ 12:16 am

      I like the idea of cooperation between both sides of the live events industry, the bands and promoters, often bands & artists show as little understanding of the issues facing landlords as vice versa.
      A model I like to use to demonstrate is this; if a bar / club owner makes 25% profit on his sales (optimistic) and pays a band £150 to play for the evening, he needs to sell £600 MORE beer than he normally would take, simply to cover the cost of paying the band, before costs like staff, overheads, security (at least £60 per official per evening) eat into any profits he might make. Even as a gigging musician I often wonder why they bother, when punters often pre-load drinks to avoid spending any money. Duw, it’s hard out there.


  7. Jason
    January 20, 2014 @ 9:52 am

    This is a great article, experienced many of the things you mentioned brings back both good and bad memories, Some people have the determination to keep going, others know when the time is right to get the hell out. No point flogging a dead horse in this business.


  8. Martyr de Mona
    January 20, 2014 @ 1:17 pm

    Well researched and written article Beth!


  9. Adam Finch
    January 20, 2014 @ 1:50 pm

    We are available for very inexpensive music videos in the Kent and London area (UK).


    Good article, it’s insane some of the figures I’ve heard about! :oO


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